5Point Nation: Detroit Crip Sh*t Outsiders Keep Getting Wrong
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| Large “BACCWEST SCOREGANG” mural with roll call in core of the Five Point neighborhood. [Shutterstock sourced, Asset ID: 2755661021] |
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| Hand-Drawn Flag Map Of Core Part Of Five Points [Alamy Sourced] |
Waddup-doe Detroit. It’s Tiny Joker — a real lok from the 5Pointer Crips.
I’m writing this shit even though I don’t want to, because I’m a CR1P, not a blogger — but too many internet bangers keep fucking REAL GANGSTA SHIT up trying to rewrite the timeline off Wi-Fi. So I’m gonna say it plainly, from a nigga who’s actually been on these blocks and tagged these walls.
Niggas have seen JOKER alongside 24700 Blocc tags on West 7 Mile. That’s a fact. So listen.
First off: 5Point Nation is not “5Points Neighborhood.”
That’s some algorithm-ass language. That’s just a nickname for the area we take pride in. Yeah, on the 24000 blocks you’ll hear people — mostly the YNs — say “5Pointz Niggaz.” That’s real. We really is them 5Pointz niggaz. But that is not the formal name. That’s slang. That’s not the set.
The real name is 5Point Nation (5PN) — the 5Pointer Crips.
Anything else you heard is bullshit, and I’m telling you that directly.
5PN didn’t just pop up outta nowhere, and we damn sure weren’t borrowing shit from L.A. This shit grew right here in Detroit around 2015–2016 — I’m not locking a date because niggas argue about that in the hood. And it started how most real shit starts: as kids. We weren’t even Crips fr at first. We were graffiti crews — Bloc Side Soldiers (B.S.S.) and North Side Soldiers (N.S.S.).
At first it was just tag crews crossing paths. Same schools, same buses, same walk home. We saw each other tagging the same walls — toy shit that got buffed anyway. Back then we knew about Crips on 7 Mile (Playboy Gangster Crips & Rollin’ 60s Neighborhood Crips), but we were kids. We weren’t robbing niggas, we were trying to get our names up. That’s it.
But anybody from the hood knows how this goes. Over time, smaller Five Points youth gangs started aligning. Crip identity really started saturating in Five Points around 2019–2020. That’s when the Crip-leaning crews adopted what later became known as 5Point Nation doctrine. Ain’t nothing mystical about it — just internal street-law shit. Every hood has rules. We were dumb enough to write some of it down.
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| 5PN-LIT Excerpt, showing “GUERRILLA WARFARE,” and other parts of the “lit.” |
By the early 2020s — like 2022–23 — and this ain’t me pushing a CR1P agenda, but the Blood (expect BPSN) presence in Five Points was basically gone. I say “basically” because I’m choosing my words, but if you think I’m lying, look at the walls from that time. We were tagging the whole hood long before I ever made this blog. This shit exists to explain what was already visible.
That’s when 5PN really locked in as 20-14 — The Nation.
Of course there’s West Coast Crip influence. You can’t be CR1P without acknowledging that. But I’m keeping it G-shit: we never had formal L.A. ties. Never implied it. We call parts of the hood “LA County,” “TeLA,” or “BACCWEST” — that’s neighborhood slang, not formal affiliation nigga. Us using that slang does not make us L.A. Crips, and we never wanted to be. We already been CR1P’n. I’m from 24000 Blocc nigga.
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| Hand-Drawn Flag Map Of Core Part Of Five Points [Alamy sourced, Image ID: 3BYN9CX] |
Let me be clear about something outsiders can’t seem to grasp:
5PN is not one gang.
It’s not one crew running another crew. It’s an alliance — a multi-clique formation rooted in 48219 and the surrounding Five Points area.
Different crews. Different names. Same codes.
That includes the set W7M ETGC, also known as ScoreGang Crips.
And the largest clique is the 24000 Blocc, also known as the Hyena Crips — a collection of Blocc Crip gangs operating in Five Points, primarily along the 24200–24800 blocks of West 7 Mile:
- 24200 — Woodbine St., Chippewa St.
- 24300 — Wormer St., Leewin St.
- 24500 — Fenton St., Pembroke Ave.
- 24600 — Grandview St., Fargo St.
- 24700 — Frisbee St., Grandview St.
- 24800 — Pembroke Ave.
“24700 Blocc” graffiti tag in the eye neighborhood of Detroit, MI, 48219 ZIP code [Alamy sourced, Image ID: 3BYJ4X6]
Internally, these blocks are organized into sub-cliques that show up in graffiti through directional ciphers such as “F/W” (Far West), “N/S” (North Side), and “B/W” (Baccwest, sometimes spelled out).
- The 24700 and 24800 cliques make up Baccwest (“B/W”), representing the westernmost edge of Five Points.
- The 24200 and 24300 cliques form the North Side (“N/S”), covering the northern end of the neighborhood.
- The 24500 and 24600 cliques are considered Far West (“F/W”), representing the core interior of Five Points within far northwest Detroit. Even though some 24600 members lean towards the “Baccwest” side identity.
These cliques operate semi-autonomously, which is why some areas feature large, fully spelled-out murals like “BACCWEST SCOREGANG” in alleyways, while other sections are marked more minimally with abbreviations such as “N/S” or “F/W.”
The difference in scale isn’t random — it reflects block-level presence and internal structure.
Other factions associated with the 5PN alliance include:
Bloc19 (the 19000 Blocc Crips) consists of smaller cliques such as 19100, 19500, and 19800. These subsets are generally confined to specific blocks — including areas around Fenton, Salem, Five Points Street, and Lenore Avenue — and are described in local accounts as maintaining tight geographic boundaries rather than expanding outward or recruiting large numbers of younger members. The 19100 clique is frequently associated with 24500 Blocc, forming what is locally referred to as the “19-45 Crips.” This alignment is noted in connection with repeated graffiti exchanges and tag wars along Fenton Street near West Seven Mile Road.
- Tiny Loc Crips, sometimes called Tiny Laughers Krew or Tiny Lok Krew, but always abbreviated TLK. This is a newer youth faction, with most members coming out of the Redford area, based around streets like Lennane and Southwick.
- North Side Crips (NSC), mostly associated with the Southfield area, specifically the Hidden Valley apartments.
- Two-Syxx Gang, a group founded by 24000 Blocc Crip members (mainly 24600 and 24700) who rep 26Gang or H-Gang. Internally, that’s understood as a cipher for Hyena Gang, where 26 = 2+6 = 8, and 8 stands for Hyena.
Other cliques like IAG, BBF, and Baby Hyenas are youth offshoots or internal names.
There’s overlap. That’s the hood.
If you don’t understand that, I’m telling you you’re not from here.
What really pisses me off is how YouTube channels flatten Detroit politics into L.A. templates. That video calling W7M ETGC “Eight Trey Gangster Crips” is the perfect example. The footage was real. Those were our tags, our rivals, our shit. But the narration was dumb as hell. That’s outsider logic: see an acronym, panic, slap an L.A. label on it, move on.
ETGC / 83GC in my hood does NOT mean LA-based Eight Trey Gangster Crips.
That cipher came from us as kids. “Hyena Crips Got Control.” It was a way to say “we run this” while giving Five Points a mascot. W7M ETGC — including 24000 Blocc / ScoreGang — rides under 5Pointer Crips, not LA sanctioned Eight Trey Gangster Crips and not under any West Coast Crip-affiliated umbrella. When people mislabel that, they erase Detroit Crip-affiliated history and act like we don’t have our own doctrine.
Another thing bots and lazy mfs keep fucking up:
5Point Nation has nothing to do with Chicago’s People Nation or five-pointed star symbolism. None. Zero. “5Point” means Five Points, Detroit — the literal neighborhood. If you see a five-pointed star tied to a 5PN name, that’s AI slop, media misinterpretation, or opp propaganda. Don’t mix that shit up. Ever. We CR1PS. Always have been.
And if you think this shit is “just graffiti,” stay your nice ass in the house cuh.
5PN is a NATION. That handwritten shit I mentioned before? We kept it. Nation Board talk, internal handling, violations — I’m not here to confirm or deny anything. I’m not testifying. I’m telling you the tags aren’t random.
When you see 83GC, W7M, TLK, you see them on specific blocks for a reason — because that’s where the loks are. When our shit is layered, stacked over rivals, dense with ciphers — that ain’t decoration. That’s presence. If you don’t know how to read it, it ain’t meant for you. But the message is clear to who it’s for: we came through, and we wasn’t playing nigga.
So let me end it like this:
5Point Nation wasn’t borrowed.
It wasn’t invented online.
It was built in the hood.
And every time somebody tries to squeeze it into an out-of-town framework, all they’re doing is telling on themselves for not knowing the ground they’re talking about.
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